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Jacob Fry actually leaned into a tribal war that was happening among, you know, a Somali population in Minnesota. And what was fascinating is you're sitting here going, "What does that mean?" Well, apparently there are different factions that we have now adopted in Minnesota that Jacob Fry leaned into whatever divide there is. I don't know the specific economic or cultural or where you came from. If you're from Moadishu and you're from Somali land, I don't know the technicalities of it, but apparently Jacob Fry went full uh full race realism, if you will. Yeah. By leaning into some kind of tribal conflict and got a contingent of the Somali population that way, cuz Omar Fat wasn't the right Somali. He picked the hoous over the Tootszie or whatever. Like, yeah, whatever it is. I don't know. But it's it's not me saying it. It's Democrat activists saying it in Minnesota that oh, Jacob Fry leaned into the worst of us by going back to some historical waring faction to win his election. It's just so goofy. Well, I've seen I've seen these clips of him too speaking uh speaking Somali. Yeah, speaking Somali, but then he'll he'll speak Somali at one rally and then he'll get in booty shorts and go down to the gay pride parade like right after that. It is this coalition of dysfunction that runs that city. And it was on it was on display for the world to see in 2020 when when that city burned to the ground and you saw mass incompetence between the mayor, especially our governor, not calling the National Guard out on time. You had you had mainstream news. You had Care 11, which is our NBC affiliate in Minnesota, go on air and be like, "Where are any of our leaders right now?" Yeah. And it's just this repeated cycle of failed leadership. Yeah. I am going to get to the George Floyd stuff, but for people who haven't been to Minnesota before, I I want to talk about like what this experience is actually like having so many uh you know, refugees from a foreign country in your state. Like I find it hard to explain to people, you know, who have been in DC for a number of years like no, no, no. you go to any Target or Starbucks or whatever and literally everybody that works there is in a hijab. Like can you can you talk more about like when you go to the cities I know it's not like this uh where you live necessarily, but like when you go to these cities, what is it like actually on the ground? Um it's really interesting. I was in New York City last week, right? It was right after the election happened. And I'll get I I'll get to the actual how immigration has impacted our state broadly speaking. But at first I wanted to just talk about how Minneapolis is for all intents and purposes like a destroyed city, right? I went to New York City last week is the point that I was getting to and obviously there's a population difference, right? So I'm I'm going to give your biggest Jacob Fry defenders that. But there was such life in that city despite its problems because I think they take public safety seriously. Because I think they take um actually creating a vibrant culture there seriously. And in Minneapolis, you will go to downtown Minneapolis and it will look like a ghost town when it should should be rush hour traffic. And that's because Minnesota had draconian COVID policies back then and everyone is work from home and everyone has been work from home for the last five years. In fact, you have government employees who say that it's basically torture for them to come back into the office now. And because of that, it's a ghost town. So high crime impacts that, but then just also bad government does too. So getting to um refugee resettlement and immigration and kind of what that looks like. The great promise of and I promise of America is that we have we're a melting pot, right? come here from all over the place and integrate into our western world view and you will have success because we've had success with all sorts of immigrants the last 300 years um 250 years but when we talk about kind of this new type of immigrant and this is not all of them I am very close with lots of u Somali mong um activists who who are Republican. But what ends up happening is there is not this idea of a melting pot. There's a cloistering. There is a certain tribalism that has happened in Minnesota as I referenced before in the mayoral election. And so when you have people here who stay in their group who basically operate as almost like self-governing societies, that has had an impact on our state. And I I won't say that all fraud have been perpetrated by Somali. There there's been plenty of cases where the the fraudsters look like me or you. But because Minnesota, like I said before, constantly boasts about how generous our welfare programs are, that attracts a certain type of mindset. And over and over and over again, you you're you're catering to a group that is uh you know that wants to stay to themselves. And that's probably the best way I can say it. The reason that uh it's changed a lot is because you have a group that mainly stays to itself. Yeah. Well, and the thing that's particularly crazy to me, and it was interesting to see this borne out in um I saw some statistic recently that something like I want to say it was like 50% of Somali men in particular are unemployed. And that's the thing that's that's interesting. Like again, when you go to Target or you go to Starbucks, it's almost always the the women that are out that are out working and it's like almost none of the I used to live in an apartment complex. Uh and it was like the men just lounging around at the pool all day while the women were working. It was very It was very uh bizarre. Yeah. I don't know how to explain it more than it's um its policies which encourage refugee resettlement. Its policies which encourage people to come from other states and other countries to specifically Minnesota. Um in some cases to take advantage in a legitimate way of the welfare system and in some ways to take advantage in a dishonorable or an unlawful way. And we see the repercussions of that. Not only like the cultural impact, but again the economic impact of we had an $18 billion surplus and took it to a $6 billion deficit. And meanwhile, our US attorney basically said it's at least $2.5 billion worth of fraud. And unfortunately, you look around at what these fraud cases are and a lot of it is food programs that's that are administered to the Somali community. It's autism centers which are again catered to the Somali community. And it's it's an unfortunate circumstance that we find ourselves in. Um I I would really draw the distinction. It's not It's not blaming a group of people, but it is blaming what we're enabling. Um it's blaming the system that we built. That's right. That does this. That's right. Yeah. Um, one other interesting thing uh about sort of the infrastructure in Minnesota um that I've noticed perhaps even more since moving away uh is that almost all the institutional capital in Minnesota is leftwing and catered to left-wing ends. Like almost all of the richest people in Minnesota are donate to the left. I mean, the the Polads, who are horrible uh owners of a sad baseball team, Minnesota's biggest Kla Harris donors, and they they have totally trashed the Minnesota Twins as a baseball team. Exactly. Um horrible tragedy. Can you talk? And there are a lot of like huge companies, you know, like like 3M is a great example that that are headquartered in Minnesota. And I don't know about who owns 3M or whatever, so don't take this as an attack on their CEO, but um can you talk more about like sort of how the institutional wealth is arrayed uh to benefit the DFL in Minnesota? Yeah. Yeah. There is a huge infrastructure that the DFL has built in Minnesota. And if you want to take what I believe to be a realist view of the fraud that's happening in Minnesota, the fraud ultimately fraud is committed, money is dispersed, we don't know where the money goes, but there is a circular thing that happens in Minnesota where lo and behold, most of the politicians that benefit from fraudsters donating donating donating to their campaigns, all of them are DFL politicians. Republicans are not benefiting from this windfall of fraud through fraud is committed, somebody makes a donation, we find out that the person who made the donation was one of the fraudsters, so on and so forth. So that's a big chunk of what we need to realize and what your audience needs to hear about in Minnesota is this fraud is actually a circular grift that gets paid back to the DFL party. Beyond that, legitimate institutions, if you want to call it that, in quotation marks, we have a very powerful union system, a very powerful public union system in Minnesota, which is uniformly voting and donating to the DFL. We have mainstream media, um, specifically our largest paper in Minnesota, which is an incredibly biased paper. Obviously, there's academia and then the business community as well. Most states are known for having your token billionaire or two who's reliable for Republicans every election cycle. We do not have that in Minnesota. To your point earlier, most of the wealth, if you if you go back to 2022, I ran uh the governor's campaign on the Republican side in 2022, and you see the average donation of Scott Jensen, who is the Republican candidate. We raised about $6.5 million, which I believe was the most that a Republican had ever raised statewide. Scott's donors were 50 bucks here, 30 bucks here. And then you're getting just trance by Tim Walls and you look down the you look down the list and it's max out donation, max out donation, max out donation. And when I say max out donations, because obviously we have a limit for candidates in Minnesota, but those same people then are also cutting checks to a number of left-wing 501c4 groups in Minnesota. The biggest one being something called Alliance for a Better Minnesota. And they are I forgot about these people. Yeah, I haven't thought about them in probably 10 years, man. One thing I just want to say though is the DFL are competent operators. They are deadly serious about their politics. I tend to think it's because politics is their religion. Yeah. But they're competent operators who also are wellunded. But Alliance for a Better Minnesota is run by Alita Messenger who is a Rockefeller who was Mark Dayton, our former governor. Uh his ex-wife runs that group. And beyond the party, beyond the Democrat party in Minnesota which gets a ton of money, beyond the unions which get a ton of money, beyond the fraud that's happening is kickbacks to the Democrat party potentially. You also have this attackwing organization where this this one woman and a series of donors if they needed to turn on a faucet of 1012 million overnight, if they felt a real threat, they are able to mobilize and do it just like that. Yeah. And they do stuff like the ballot harvesting. They do stuff like uh obviously media campaigns, mainly attack ads. And even when you run a well-funded campaign from Minnesota standards, you're drowned in that operation. I tend to think, Nick, that Minnesota is more red than we give it credit for. But because of these series of things, including the infrastructure, including people's ability to actually get out and vote in an off year, that we're just drowned in the process. Republicans are just drowned in the process. Yeah. Uh I'm going to do some of our uh greatest hits here. Uh should we do some Ken Martin bashing? Ken Martin. Let's do it. I Hey, listen. in Minnesota, Ken Martin. And and it might be just be because Minnesota is an easy job. Yeah. Right. If you're a Democrat, you think Tina Smith is a super talented politician. You think Tim Walls is a super talented uh politician. It might just be an easy job. Yeah. When Ken Martin was here as a Democrat chair in Minnesota, it appeared like he was running a military operation. It was that good sometimes. But again, like Tim Walls, you see him on the national stage. Seems like someone's calling for his head every day. And yeah, so he's So Ken Martin, now head of the DNC. Uh for people who haven't been paying attention, he's the Minnesota party chair. He used to be head uh of the uh Minnesota DFL. Uh what are some of the craziest things uh from his career in Minnesota over the last over the last 10 years? He he just he won a lot in Minnesota. I he didn't have a whole lot of like personal controversy. I I had heard that one of his kids was MAGA, which is interesting. Um so maybe you can have him on the show. Uh but the new guy, man, the new guy, his name is Richard Richard Carlbomb or something like that. Former Tim Walls staffer. Yeah. We went from Ken Martin who kind of ran this at least perception-wise a pretty competent operation to this Richard Carlblom is like what he's known for right now is like he'll he'll tweet drunk at 1 in the morning like there'll be these long string of angry tweets at Republican candidates. So has he done that? Have you gotten the honor yet? Not yet. I'm sure it's coming. Maybe maybe this maybe this maybe this will get it. Maybe this podcast will do it. No, but Minnesota, our political exports when it comes to national politics, it's like we're an embarrassment over and over and over again. Tim Walls, Amy Clolobashar ran for president, ran one of the most pathetic campaigns that I can Yeah. remember seeing our sound bites, right? Ilhan Omar has some ridiculous sound bite. Tina Smith has some ridiculous sound bite. Amy Clolobashar, it's like an embarrassment. And I think it's because when you're a Democrat politician in Minnesota, you get to just ride the machine. You are not challenged. You are not the greases are the the skids are greased for you in Minnesota. One really interesting example, again, when I ran the campaign in 2022, uh on the Republican side for governor, we had done all this oppo research on the Chinese connections that Tim Walls had on his stolen valor stuff. Yeah. huge. This idea that this is all brand new. Why didn't I got a lot of texts that was like, "Why didn't you guys ever talk about this in Minnesota?" We did. There was no new opposition research. It's just that our media infrastructure in Minnesota was in the bag for Tim Walls. The example that I wanted to give you was we did a press conference in 2022 about the stolen valor issue and we brought out other veterans and we did the whole kick and kaboodleoodle about how Tim Walls lied about his rank and lied about weapons of war lied about all this stuff. Star Tribune ran a headline after that press conference that said Scott Jensen and Matt Burke, Governor, Lieutenant Governor, two men who never served, comma, criticized Tim Walls's military record. And from there, the story was buried. Wow. So when you got when he got to the vice presidential level, I I just want to reiterate there was no new oppo research. Yeah. It was all on a plate. And I actually I kind of feel bad for Kla Harris because she's probably sitting here going, "I got this squeaky clean guy." Like, he's got nothing. He's got nothing in his past. It just so happens that he has a ton. It's just not been covered. Yeah. You know, one of the the interesting comments I get from conservatives when they when they look at the state of the conservative movement in Minnesota, aside from uh their sadness at how bad it all is, is there's one shining star, which is Alpha News. Yes. Everybody is really into Alpha News. I actually really enjoyed the podcast that uh Tucker Carlson did with um Liz Collins. Yeah. Um, can you talk a little bit about because this was starting when you when we were running. Yeah. When when when you and I were they just celebrated their 10 years of existing like a week ago. Yeah. So, what what is Alpha News? How did that all come about? And what are some of the things that they've uncovered uh in the last couple of years? So, Alpha News and it's run by Liz Colin who many many of you may have heard of, maybe you haven't. I would Google her if you haven't. Um, Alpha News is an independent media outlet that has been bubbling up in Minnesota and it's gained a lot of traction over the past call it five years and I think it's because motans like I said before are traditional media in Minnesota. A lot of people think media is in the bag for Democrats and that might be true. It is true elsewhere in Minnesota. It's nakedly true. Yeah. Right. So people are being fed garbage from their traditional media outlets. Well, on on comes this mainly online publication called Alpha News and I think a number of different people funded. I think it was associated with something called the Freedom Club in Minnesota for a long time and has become totally independent. So real coverage of the George Floyd riots, real coverage of the actual fraud that's taken place. They have broken story after story. I mean, there are stories about how I think they just did a recent story about how uh a teacher locally in Minnesota it was taking AI images of his students and and ended up getting charged for it. But when it comes to the actual perpetrators of the fraud, when it comes to the actual crime statistics in Minnesota, Liz Colin and Alpha News have been the only real source for people to get alternative information. And Minnesota is a target-rich environment. We have a lot going on. And every time you see kind of a national story that puts egg on the Democrat face nationally, it it probably came from Liz Colin and Alpha and the team at Alpha News there. So, I'm I'm immensely if I have any nugget of hope for politics in Minnesota, it's that organization actually uh getting the truth out. They did they also did the uh documentary I don't want to screw the name up but the fall of Minneapolis where they actually produced a really well done documentary about every failure along the way that happened in Minneapolis. Yeah. And I think that that is a is a great segue to uh one of the biggest tragedies over the last couple of years uh in Minnesota which was the destruction and hollowing out of Minneapolis. Starting with uh the George Floyd riots, which I think um I was here in DC for the George Floyd riots here. Uh they did not hold a candle to the damage that I saw when I came to Minneapolis after. Can you give the sort of trajectory as to what happened in those riots in the Twin Cities? Before I before I dive into that, one other thing that I just wanted to make note of Alpha News that might be of interest to the audience is that Alpha News is the only one who is covering what's kind of happening to the police officers that were prosecuted during the George Floyd. And I'm going to come back to that, too. Yeah. So, good on them. The riots totally, it's just the culmination of how incompetent our government has been for a long time. We finally had the powder keg blow up after George Floyd died in Minneapolis. And I'm going to repeat, I know it's probably common knowledge at this point, but it was a very apparent that something was going to happen. A riot was going to happen between Tim Walls and Jacob Fry. Tim Walls, I remember the night that it happened where where the city went up in flames. Tim Walls was blaming everybody but himself and at the same time saying, "The buck stops with me." He was blaming Jacob Fry. This was where the famous quote came out about, "What am I going to do? Call out the National Guard? Those are just a bunch of fry cooks. 19-year-old fry cooks." It's like, "This dude has no sense for what his job is in a time of crisis." And he not only blamed Jacob Fry, blamed other people on the ground level. It was ultimately his call to get the National Guard out. But even during the fog of misinformation that was happening uh throughout that time, Tim Walls was blaming white supremacists for the riot. He was blaming the Mexican drug cartels for the riot. He was just grabbing on to anyone he could to say, "These are all people from out of state. It's not our own people." There was this famous story about Umbrella Man. Yeah. Yeah, if you remember this umbrella man, it was one guy who set like one fire and he had a mask on like was holding an umbrella and knocking out windows with an umbrella. Well, the narrative got spun or he spun it in his own mind and other pe other Democrat activists in Minneapolis spun it in their own mind that the the guy who caused all the riots was the white guy. Yeah. Was Umbrella Man. Yep. What more can you say beyond like this guy had a job to do? He didn't call the National Guard for it was almost 72 hours as the city burned. We lost an we lost a precinct. We lost a police precinct to arson during these riots. And between Jacob Fry and Tim Walls, that police force in that building were running out of there as the as the police station was going up in flames because they were told to they were told to stand down and let it burn. And so since then, the fallout since then is we have had a massive drop in our police force in Minneapolis. We are not even close. I think I don't even think we're half staffed in Minneapolis to like the numbers they say they need. I believe we're half or close to half of that. And there's been a series of people who've gotten out of the profession completely, you know, because of mental health disability. They they just can't handle the job as it is. And with that, you have seen a great hollowing out of Minneapolis. When I was in college, there was a place called Uptown, and it was the hop in place. Yep. Nightclubs, restaurants. It's where you want it to be. If you go to Uptown now, at best, it's unoccupied. At worst, it's an open air drug market. And you have neighborhood, neighborhood after neighborhood, downtown after downtown within the confines of Minneapolis that everything's gone, dude. There is no there is no activity. There's no growth. There's no hope. You know it. Great. You elected Jake Jacob Fry, the guy who's managed this failure for the last 10 or so years. All I can say is it's a lifeless uh it's a lifeless city now. and we have not recovered from it. We did not recover from the COVID lockdowns either. So the combination of those two things, we you've had plenty of downtowns, plenty of cities across the country who have recovered and are thriving again. Minneapolis, it doesn't look like it it it's going to thrive forever more. You know, like this might in real time, this might very well be the next Detroit that we're looking at. Well, so that that was actually going to be my next point was people always like to talk about uh how bad Detroit is. I went to Detroit this summer. It was way nicer than post George Floyd and postcoid Minneapolis. That is how bad the situation is. It's truly truly sad. And beyond that too, it's like Tim Walls and Democrats in Minnesota, they like to hang their hat on, you know, we're a very generous state. We're feeding, we're giving kids free meals in schools now. But the other thing that Minnesota, at least with all of its lumps, you could take was that our education system used to be really good in Minnesota, right? You had sub suburban schools and public schools that Minnesota for a long time. There's that classic Time magazine article, The Good Life in Minnesota, which talked a lot about how great our public school education is. If you trust ACT scores and you trust test scores right now, and part of this does have to do with again, we're bringing in people who are non-producers or who are not interested in family or raising their children and we're exporting people who are producers. Like that is that is just straight line economics, right? But when you trust when you look at the data on our test scores, we're doing worse than Mississippi, Alabama, we're falling behind in those categories, too. So, it's a combination of like broken education system that we're doubling down on and the immigration thing that we talked about before, too. Yeah. I want to draw uh attention to um what happened to the police officers uh who were involved in George Floyd's uh arrest. Um I don't think anybody should be forgetting about uh Derek Schovin in particular who has been sentenced to be in prison for a very long time. Um and the other officers involved, one of whom was released what, last week? Yeah, last week. Um, I think this was a this was also a dangerous thing, uh, you know, during the Biden era where a lot of people forgot about the January 6 protesters and, um, we left a lot of those people to rot. So, uh, what is happening, what did happen and what is happening now with those police officers who were in prison? Yeah. Well, we wouldn't know unless we had Alpha News and Liz Colin who has been following up on that story. My understanding, and I know the attorney now for Derek Schovin, my understanding is they're just exploring all options. It's a really precarious situation because Derek Shelvin because of the civil rights conviction that he had is in federal prison right now. And I think we found out last year that he had gotten stabbed in federal prison. So the man's life is under threat in federal prison. But the people were saying Trump is going to pardon him. Trump is going to pardon him. Well, a pardon takes care of the federal charges. That's my understanding. I don't think Derek Shiain would want to be in a state prison. I don't think he would want to come back to Minnesota and be in a prison in Minnesota. Um, and I've talked to people who like know the situation better than I do and pretty much agree with that because if you're getting shanked in federal prison, well, come back to the state where you know you were convicted originally. And I I think they're exploring every option that they can legally, but we wouldn't know. We wouldn't even know about the stabbing. We wouldn't know about all sorts of things had it not been for uh Liz Colin, who is who is married to Bob Croll. I was going to bring up Bob Croll, who is the head of the Minnesota Peace and Police Officers Association, which is kind of the police union across the state of Minnesota. And so I think between the two of them, there's an acute interest in how our law enforcement is treated in Minnesota because they've been treated very, very poorly. And that that spurred on making sure that we still have eyes on Derek Schovin that you know that one day we're not going to just find out that uh yeah, he did die in in prison because he got shanked. But there's a really competent lawyer working on his case. I don't know what's going to come of it. I would just not recommend I I can't like I wouldn't recommend the pardon, you know, because it's like if that takes care of your federal case and they ship you back to Minnesota. Do you know you're done? Do you know how long his state sentence is? The federal sentence is 25 years or something like that. And I think the state sentence is right around there, too, man. And uh the rest of these police officers when you watch that original video who had little to nothing to do with it, Tuttow, I believe is his name that just got released from hit with five years or something like that. Five years for standing there. Yeah. And I think most police officers, if you talk to them, boots on the ground cops in Minneapolis look at that and they're like, "Who in this state has our back? who who will actually defend us if something like that were to happen again because it's knives out for these people. I mean, most that Minneapolis city council they were at defund the police rallies back in 2020. Half of them probably still believe it. People I serve with on the house who try to like project themselves now as moderate because they're in a swing district. A lot of them were at these defund the police rallies in Minneapolis, too. So, I think these cops, the reason that we're not able to fully staff Minneapolis and the reason that we have a shortage, which will continue to exasperate the problem, is because they look around and they're like, "Who's got our back?" Yeah. And I think it makes a good case for when Trump talks about, you know, sending in the National Guard, I think that's reasonable for for Minneapolis. I think that it it might help revive some of the areas that are now either open air drug markets or just riddled with crime. Yeah. Um, it seems like the times in Minnesota and the politics are very dire and back when I worked in the Minnesota State Legislature for the Republican conference, uh, another job I got fired from, uh, which you will also remember, you noticing a trend here. Yeah, I know. You can't get fired from this one if you own it. So, that's exactly right. Um uh but they uh by and large the members were uh frankly boomers who were not suited for the times. They did not know uh the political times we were going through and how bad things were going to get. Yeah. I have not admittedly kept up uh with the state legislature since then. Mhm. Um can you tell us a little bit about the state of uh you know the Republicans that serve uh in the House and the Senate now? How what their worldview is uh what the factions are and so on and whether or not they take these challenges seriously. So part of that is still there, no doubt about it. But then within my caucus, within the Republican House side of the which is which is what I am most intimately familiar with because I'm involved in it, you've had I think about half our caucus get elected at this point in the last 2 to four years. And with that has come kind of a new fresh perspective, new blood. I think people who know what time it is for the most part. And there's always a little bit of tension between kind of that old guard thinking and that Minnesota America first type legislature. And it goes back to what we said earlier in the podcast where that really is the conundrum for Republicans direction in Minnesota because you still have an old guard who wants to again go back to 2008 2012 politics because they see that as the key to unlocking statewide victory in Minnesota. And then you have another faction who says actually Trump came the closest here. We need to double down and embrace his populist policies. Classic example is next year we're going to have a United States Senate election. Tina Smith has retired. She's had some health issues or what have you. That race is pretty sleepy right now. But you see that old guard that I talked about before. You'll get a kick out of this is they are trying to do a draft Tim Pente campaign. God to run for US Senate again. So bad. So Tim Palente was a two-term governor in Minnesota and ran for president. Really moderated his stances. Tried to run for governor again in 2018. Got beat by an upstart candidate named Jeff Johnson. Um well I shouldn't say upstart, more of a grassroots candidate. Yeah. Named Jeff Johnson. Got beat real bad in that primary. And because no one is leading a new way in Minnesota, you you still have those people who have that old school thinking who say, "Hey, if we just get if we just get Tim Pente back, that's our that's our key." It's almost like there's not original thinking uh in this state in a lot of ways, but there is this dynamic of like generally younger, fresher perspective, new ideas, hard chargers, and the friction it causes between the people who still kind of maintain control. Yeah. Is um Joe McDonald still there? Joe McDonald is still there. Representative Joe McDonald, he is one of my colleagues. I freaking love Joe. I haven't talked to him in years, but one of the most wonderful people, photographer, uh, Irish guy. He'll let you know. He'll let you know how Irish guy I have ever met in my life. So, shout out Joe McDonald if you're watching this. Shout out Joe McDonald. Uh, literally one of the best bosses I've ever had. He was great. He was not the one that fired me. So, well, that's good. Yeah, he's he he was an amazing uh amazing guy. Um well, Max, where can people keep up with the important work that you're doing uh in Minnesota? Um and keep up with all the exciting things uh to come. Yeah. Well, two things I would say. I'm on X. Um sometimes I go through streaks where I tweet a lot. You know, sometimes business takes over my life, but I'm Max Rhyr on X. And like I said, beyond that, to to just kind of get a pulse of what's really happening in Minnesota, go look up Alpha News. Go look up them on X. Follow them. You're going to get it straight from the horse's mouth for from that organization. It It's the only thing probably worth following from a Minnesota perspective. Great. Well, thank you so much for coming on Moment of Truth. Thank you, Nick. [Music] Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Moment of Truth. And thank you to Max uh for coming on. He flew all the way from the great state of Minnesota uh just to come and do that. This has been an episode I've been wanting to do for a long time and it's always great to see uh an old friend and mentor. Uh so this episode was particularly uh fun for me to do. I hope that you guys enjoyed it as well. Uh, thank you again for tuning in to Moment of Truth and we will see you again next week. Moment of truth is an American Moment podcast taped at the Conservative Partnership Campus Studios and is produced by Jake Mercier and Hunter Smith with original graphics and title cards by Jared Cummings. Our intro song is A minor struggle by Ryan Serinich. And our website is americanm.org. [Music]
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