"Guest on the show, IP litigator and partner at Katten Muchin Rosenman, discussing Minions music licensing and Olympic trademarks."

"Intellectual property litigator at Katten Muchin Rosenman; guest expert discussing the Cox Communications music piracy case."

"intellectual property litigator Terrence Ross, a partner at Ken Muin Rosenman"

"My guest is intellectual property litigator Terrence Ross, a partner at Ken Muin Rosenman. Thanks so much Terry as always. That's Terrence Ross of Katen Rosenman."

"as this time it beats Terrence Ross School in paloalto"