“The are credit default swaps for Oracle and even Apple.”

“If you look at the credit default swaps and the numbers there, I mean, people are getting a little bit nervous about our macro situation, especially given the fact that in a few years, um, social secu...”

“you don't need call options and put options”

“So those include high yield bonds, those include distress bonds, credit default swaps, loans”

“explaining credit default swaps”